ECB's Schnabel 'Comfortable' With Rate Hike Bets, China to Boost Domestic Demand | The Pulse 12/8

Posted on 12/08/2025
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ECB Executive Board member Isabel Schnabel suggests interest rates have reached the bottom, saying she's comfortable with bets that the next rate move will be a hike. Schnabel is the first policymaker to declare with any certainty that borrowing costs aren’t simply in a “good place” — as President Christine Lagarde and others have repeatedly said — but have reached a floor.

China's top leaders have made boosting domestic demand their top priority for 2026, as they seek to protect the economy from global trade. The Communist party's decision-making Politburo has also hinted at a measured approach to stimulus. They say they will keep their “proactive” fiscal and “moderately loose” monetary stances in play.

Plus Ukraine's President heads to London where Prime Minister Keir Starmer is hosting European leaders, as they seek to steer US-led peace talks. Over the weekend, US President Donald Trump said he was disappointed in the way Volodymyr Zelenskiy had handled Washington's proposal to end the war.

Today's guests: Anne Walsh, Guggenheim Investments CIO; Deepak Nath, Smith & Nephew CEO; James Lord, Morgan Stanley, Global Head of FX & EM Strategy; Natia Seskuria, RUSI Associate Fellow
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Chapters:

00:00:00 - The Pulse with Francine Lacqua

00:00:25 - China to prioritize boosting domestic demand in 2026

00:03:15 - Anne Walsh, Guggenheim Partners CIO

00:14:43 - Dalio: We are having too much debt

00:17:35 - Deepak Nath, Smith & Nephew CEO

00:23:43 - Monday headlines

00:24:23 - James Lord, Morgan Stanley Head of EM Strategy

00:31:04 - ECB's Schnabel signals to interest-rate rise

00:33:40 - Magnum Ice Cream Company's trading debut

00:36:54 - PIMCO CIO: Important to do own credit work

00:38:12 - Starmer hosts leaders to discuss Ukraine, Russia

00:42:14 - Natia Seskuria, RUSI

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